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I think it was Friedrich Nietzsche who said that “man is the cruelest animal ” and every year or so a story comes along that reminds you of just how true that statement is and man’s inhumanity to man and the evil that dwells inside some of us… When catalyzed by greed and narcississm …the need for revenge can be all-consuming, and the results …devastating.

As I was reading the other day I stumbled upon a story that piqued my interest enough to start digging into it to get the background and fact check the original story. The people who are the victims in this story have come to be called the “IRP6.” http://freetheirp6.wix.com/freetheirp6#!

6 men….strong and devout Christians all of themk, have had their lives rudely interrupted and taken from them by a corrupt criminal justice system with it’s hand on one side of the scales of justice …driven by greed and uncaring about the ruined lives it leaves in its wake.

“When crimes begin to pile up they become invisible. When sufferings become unendurable, the cries are no longer heard. The cries, too, fall like rain in summer.” – Bertolt Brecht

When you see an injustice such as this taking place in every person’s duty to shine a bright light on it and say enough is enough because any of us could be next. I will let you read about this for yourself that I strongly encourage you to take some affirmative step to support these six men who are currently scheduled to spend the next 10 to 11 years in prison for a crime they didn’t commit. Man’s inhumanity is truly the keynote of stupidity in power. At the heart of this corruption is a federal court judge and the law firm she used to work for and a sociopathic woman consumed with evil. It’s an interesting story and one that everybody needs to hear… So please help me with this and spread it to at least two other people… Remember you could be next.

THERE WILL BE FOLLOW UPS TO THIS …COUNT ON IT!

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HERE IS THE STORY

Beginning of IRP Solutions

IRP Solutions was established in February 2003 and began to heavily market its flagship Case Investigative Life Cycle (CILC®) software solution in August 2003 to major federal, state and local law enforcement agencies, including but not limited to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), Department of Justice (DOJ) and the New York City Police Department (NYPD).

The Impact of 911

IRP Solutions Corporation was formed a couple of years after the tragedies of 9-11 (IRP is an acronym for “Investigative Resource Planning”). This was a country in shock. We experienced the worst attack in history against our country on our native soil. Many of the events of that day and months that would follow showed gaps in the investigative processes of our law enforcement agencies, but yet there were no solutions readily available to address the need. Meanwhile, years prior to 9-11 the founders of IRP Solutions had begun development of a small stand-alone software application to be used as an individual work product for law enforcement.

That initial work was done under the company name Leading Team. Although the initial software developed by Leading Team was an enterprise-class solution, it was not web-enabled or capable of addressing the major gaps that were identified post-911 (i.e., Lack of ability to share intelligence/investigative information between law enforcement at all levels of government, etc.). The company founders knew that with a little hard work, they could develop a software application that could significantly impact our nation’s law enforcement operations. However, they didn’t feel that the current company name accurately reflected the new strategy. Thus, IRP Solutions Corporation was formed.

The Call from DHS: A Dream Opportunity….

In October 2003, IRP received a call from the Program Manager at the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) for an initiative that was called the Consolidated Enforcement Environment Initiative. DHS wanted IRP to conduct a web demo of the software solution that IRP had developed. IRP’s web demo was very successful and the company was asked to travel to Washington, DC to conduct a demo before a larger audience.

In November 2003, IRP travelled to Washington, DC to demonstrate their software solution before the DHS Consolidated Enforcement Environment Initiative team which comprised of DHS, FBI, Secret Service, Federal Air Marshals, Immigrations and Customs Enforcement, TSA, U.S. Coast Guard, and Deloitte. This audience questioned IRP on the technical and functional aspects of the software. This was, yet another, successful demonstration of the software that IRP had developed.  Following the meeting, DHS provided IRP with “Eyes Only” documentation and asked IRP to begin working (non-contractually) on capabilities to meet certain federal law enforcement scenarios.

IRP Solutions’ Case Investigative Life Cycle (CILC®)

Although CILC software was considered the most promising, strong political winds from large entrenched competitors significantly slowed the sales cycle, which subsequently caused a cash flow crunch and aging debt related to the development of the software.

The RAID….The IRP Dream Becomes A Nightmare…February 9, 2005

The morning of February 9th, 2005 started like most days at IRP Solutions. Company staff began to show up for work. The day was a typical business day until unexpected guest showed up at the reception desk. IRP Solutions was being raided by federal agents for alleged wrongdoing. There were 21 federal agents at the front door of a business, that at the time, only had approximately 20 employees. A warrant was presented stating that IRP Solutions and its executives were accused of mail and wire fraud.

Let’s rewind a couple of years and set the stage for how all of this came about…..

In 2003, IRP Solutions (IRP) was established to develop software for law enforcement agencies. Through its marketing efforts, IRP became engaged with major agencies like the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). As IRP became more engaged with agencies like DHS and NYPD, there were more requests for modifications to the software. DHS even told IRP to “…put a federal face on the software…”. Agencies were sending very positive signals and continued to ask for modifications to the software to meet their respective needs. Because of the modification and customization requests from agencies, IRP management began to explore ways to meet the increased demand for software development. IRP began to explore the option of augmenting the staff with contract labor.

IRP contacted staffing companies and explained the dilemma of trying to meet the requests of the law enforcement agencies. Several companies did their due diligence and considered IRP an acceptable risk for executing a contract. There were several companies that chose not to team with IRP. Contracts were executed to bring on technologists to incorporate technical enhancements requested by the federal government and local law enforcement. The agencies were fully engaged with IRP to make enhancements to the software, which resulted in the need for IRP to continue extending its engagement with staffing companies. Consequently, the debt continued to grow.

In the meantime, in late 2004, DHS requested pricing quotes that exceeded $100 million. Additionally, DHS explicitly stated that they were working on the budget and needed the pricing quotes as part of their budget exercises. This was later substantiated by FBI interview documents in which a DHS official stated that they (DHS) were setting up a pilot project for IRP.

Now fast forward to February 2005…IRP business offices are raided by over 20 federal agents for alleged fraud and running a scam, accused of not developing software, but bilking staffing companies of millions of dollars. IRP was also accused of making up stories about customers like the Department of Homeland Security, the FBI, NYPD, Colorado Bureau of Investigations, and several others.

There was no fraud or scheme…IRP Solutions was a legitimate business that incurred business debt.

A grand jury handed down a 25-count indictment in June 2009, charging the six with fraud in never paying $4 million or more the company owed to about 40 companies that provided temporary labor to IRP.

Dupree said, “The Christian businessmen built a small company that concentrated on developing a software application called CILC, which stands for Case Investigative Life Cycle. This software was developed to aid law enforcement in investigating a case through to prosecution. The necessity of this type of software was overly clear as the government indicated the main reason 9/11 can occur was because of the inability of government agencies to share information.”

“In other words, the FBI alleged that IRP Solutions did not actually have software at all, “said Dupree

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bhoObama Cooked the Unemployment Figured 4 Weeks Before the Election~!

Jesus, Mary, Joseph…and Jack Welch…when will it ever end?

On Nov. 19, 2013 (yes today!) it was revealed that the “unemployment number” released on Oct. 5, 2012 was “faked.” (which is news to everyone except readers of this blog)  It appears that Washington is copying the methods of China. As many of you may have guessed the sudden drop to 7.8% one month before election was an absolute fraud designed to sway the low information voters into voting for Barachio The Liar.

Surely you will remember the assault by the liberal media on Jack Welch  who also called BS on these numbers… He was labeled an ‘unemployment numbers truther” He was ridiculed, his character and integrity were questioned, he received death threats, and he was held up to be a laughingstock for even suggesting that Obama might cheat to win the election. Who is the laughingstock now?

On that very day, Oct. 5, 2012, I was so dumbfounded by the audacity of this lie that I wrote a blog post article which demonstrated statistically how unlikely these numbers were. Here is that link which I must admit was spectacular: The post was fittingly titledLies, Damn Lies, the Liars Who Tell Them, and their King …Obama!” 

I wrote:

“Only someone with a single digit IQ won’t immediately see through this latest desperate bit of manufactured news courtesy of the most dishonest despot in the history of our Republic. What am I talking about? Why the latest unemployment numbers of course…Let’s have a closer look at those numbers and I will show you what I mean.:”

and concluded by saying:

“Further proof that the crooked propagandists in the MSM are in the bag for the commie will infuriate you because all they are going to announce is that:

‘UNEMPLOYMENT RATE PLUNGES TO FOUR YEAR LOW OF 7.8%”.

They will not report the fraudulent methodology and underpinnings behind this number. They won’t report that the odds of you winning the lottery are better than this actually happening in September in this economy and they won’t shine the bright light they are supposed too shine on this cheap 2 bit huckster…constitutional fraud and charlatan shoveling the BS at us like we all rode the short buses to school. It’s wrong …it’s a lie …it’s insulting but it is the reality of who this man and his people are.
If voters do not recognize the “amazing good luck” these numbers represent for Barack Obama and the Democrats, 2 days after the biblical ass kicking he took on international TV and one month before the election, we must be at least as dumb as Obama proved himself to be in his debate this week”

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I was so angry over this obvious fraud and I knew they were going to get away with it that I wrote a follow up piece 3 days later showing exactly how they had cooked the books to try and support these lies. In a blog post title:

You Are Being Lied too Please Be Smart Enough to Know It!

I wrote:

“Local headlines (from Associated Press and the NYT ) shouted out the news …sometimes using three different stories on 2 separate pages.

“Obama single handedly lowers unemployment to 7.8%!”…

 (If they only knew how close to the truth that statement was)

Their argument was that there were too many people involved with generating those numbers for anyone to get away with cheating…and then I showed you how had simply made 7 million people disappear…

NOW …TODAY! We get the news that the books were in fact cooked. Thank you!

http://nypost.com/2013/11/18/census-faked-2012-election-jobs-report/

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2012/10/meet-the-unemployment-rate-truthers.html

https://therightwingextremist.wordpress.com/2012/10/08/graph-a-in-our/her

https://therightwingextremist.wordpress.com/2012/10/05/1635/

pentagonThis is a huge deal! In the last couple of years Obama has purged over 200 of the top military officers from the military citing reasons that are so transparent and so manufactured they can’t be repeated with a straight face.

As Dingy Harry likes to say, “Word on the street is….” that Obama and the military are not getting along. Wow. Really. What could have given that away? Could it be the firing of the now 200+ high ranking military officers including our very top generals and admirals? Could it be that Obama has authorized use of the American Military for the first time in over 200 years to operate on American soil as a “policing force.” That, along with several other completely un-American atrocities can be found in the National Defense Authorization Act Barry signed into law a year or so ago. Could it be that Barry has made a point to strip the military of high raining officers who would NOT be willing to fire on Americans if there was trouble at home? TRANSLATION: Will they be willing to fire on the Tea Party? 

Take a look at just some of the most recent stories in just the last few weeks. It seems pretty obvious if there isn’t a problem with Obama and senior military leaders, there SHOULD be. Enjoy every day like it’s your last. Everything we know could be completely flipped upside down on us overnight some day. None of what has been happening gives even the most remote sense of stability within our country and within its leadership. In the following clip I borrowed from another story, even Congressman Louie Gohmert who HAPPENS to be the VICE CHAIR OF THE JUDICIARY SUBCOMMITTEE ON CRIME, TERRORISM, AND HOMELAND SECURITY and HE CAN’T GET ANSWERS!!!!!!!!  IF the D.H.S. won’t give HIM answers, and HE’S SCARED, who are they reporting to and WHAT ARE THEY DOING?

Watch yourselves patriots. Be careful! 

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After a spate of news stories this summer citing tensions between President Barack Obama and his top military commanders over the possibility of U.S. intervention in Syria, White House chief of staff Denis McDonough hastened to assure the Washington Post that everything was, in fact, copacetic: The president “appreciates” candid military advice “above all else,” McDonough insisted, and has “close, and in some instances warm, relationships with his military chiefs,” as the Post put it. During my own time at the Pentagon, where I worked as an Obama appointee from the spring of 2009 until mid-2011, few seemed to hold this view. I recall asking one general, recently back from Afghanistan, if he’d shared his experiences and insights with the president. Rolling his eyes, he told me grimly that the White House preferred the military to be seen but not heard.

Curious about whether things had changed since then, I asked a dozen serving and recently retired senior military officers with high-level White House  access, many of whom were not comfortable speaking on the record, if they knew of any military leaders with whom the president had a close and warm personal relationship. In every case, the initial response was a long silence. “That’s a great question,” said one retired senior officer, after a lengthy pause. “Good question. I don’t know,” said a second. “I don’t think he’s close to anyone,” commented a third. He just doesn’t seem to have any interest in “getting to know” the military, a retired general concluded. CONT’D HERE (CLICK)

http://thelastgreatstand.com/lgs/2013/11/16/obama-vs-the-military-generals-things-beginning-to-heat-up/

 
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I know there have been many people who have recently written the Tea Parties obituary and made ridiculous claims cheering it’s unpopularity and demise…and I have maintained that all of the left wing attacks may have marginalized the “Tea Party” brand they have done nothing to change the values part of equation …meaning that people still support Tea Party values even if some of them say they have an unfavorable view of the TP….
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Thats the funny thing about values …they aren’t out for the bid or amendable when they become uncomfortable. Heartfelt values are those bright lines that keep our lives moving down the road in a civilized responsible society …Tea Party values like living within your means and not stealing the economic output of others and respecting everyons freedoms and liberties are only out of style on the left …and here is the proof from a recent Rasmussen Poll“Rasmussen found that 42% of likely U.S. voters say their own personal views are closer to those of the average Tea Party member, while the same percentage believe Obama’s are closer to their own (16% are unsure). 42% of the public can hardly be considered “fringe,” by any objective mind, and it’s surprising that the number is this high, considering the onslaught of …smear campaigns orchestrated against the Tea Party movement from progressives in both parties. Attempts to lab…el the Tea Party as terrorists, hostage-takers, suicide bombers, and of course, racists, are apparently not having the damaging effect that one might think they would.

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Establishment republicans should also take note (are you listening, John McCain), that 2/3 of republicans say the views of the average wacko birds Tea Party member are closest to what they think. This is proof positive that the Republican Party cannot flourish (or possibly even survive) without the Tea Party, but the opposite is not true.

What about the “coveted” independent voters, the group that we’re told republicans must cater to, “moderating” their message in order capture their votes? A majority, 51% of unaffiliated voters identify more closely with the average member of the Tea Party. Are you listening Republican Party leadership, or are you perfectly content chugging along as Big Government Party #2?

Jack De Graffenriedspite the hateful, coordinated attacks against the Tea Party movement by both parties and the mainstream media, amazingly, voters continue to identify with the movement’s smaller government/lower taxes message. In fact, Sixty-two percent (62%) think cutting spending rather than increasing it is the best thing the federal government can do to help the economy”.

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I don’t know about anyone else but when I have a question or don’t think that something is right I write the Congressman who’s position doesn’t make any sense and call them on it. Mostly this has been the Congressmen where I used to live in Deep Blue Oregon so here are copies of their letters back to me that I thought might interest you:

First up is the letter Kurt Schrader D-OR wrote back to me when I nailed him on his support fvor the UN Small Arms treaty and how you can’t support both the 2nd Amendment (something he swore to do) and the UN Treaty here was his anemic response:

schraderHere is U.S. Senator Merkely’s (D-OR) response to my letter asking about the DHS ammo purchases

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Here is U.S. Senator Ron Wyden (D-NY/OR) response to my inquiry about his insane fixation with going to war with Syria over made up and fake false flag attacks by Israel …Here is what the Zionist owned US SEnator had to say:

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and finally here is the response I got from US Senator Merkely after i asked him why Obamacare was good enough for us but not for him: (This is the most pathetic answer I have ever received from anyone)

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Should we call him “Calig-Bama” or “Barrigula”? Don’t answer that until you see how the biographical profiles of these two insane leaders matches up…Then decide.

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I finally got my chance to watch the classic uncut version of the movie Caligula last night … The version that is 2 1/2 hours long starring Malcolm McDowell and Peter O’Toole… This is the version still banned in Canada even today.  Other than the gratuitous sex and violence and bloodshed this was one interesting movie about the life of one very screwed up evil, lecherous, deviant, narcissistic, arrogant, boastful, cruel, vicious, vindictive, brutal dictator. 2 1/2 hours wasn’t enough and after watching this movie I found myself wanting to know more about this crazy insane monarch. My first question of course was were all of the stories I’ve heard that were in the movie true or is this just the imaginations of Hollywood gone wild … So I sat down with Google and went to work and as I learned more and more about Caligula I couldn’t stop myself from making these inevitable comparisons that are too hard to avoid.. I mean I couldn’t help but notice so many parallels between who Caligula was and our current seat warmer in the White House. Before you cry foul hear me out because this is going to give you the ability to view Mr. Obama in a completely different light.

First off, the stories, the events, incredible off the hook over the top debauchery that took place during his 1400 days as emperor are more than likely at least partially true… Every great story has some kernel of truthfulness floating around

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I was prepared to just accept it all as fact because it was so entertaining but as I dug deeper I discovered that a lot of the evidence is pretty shaky. All the best stories are to be found in the brief biography by Suetonius in The Twelve Caesars. Suetonius, however, is not exactly the horse’s mouth, not even the horse-consul’s. For one thing, though he worked in the imperial archives and was the Emperor Hadrian’s secretary, he was born circa AD69 – Caligula died AD41. For another, he was a terrible, if delicious, gossip, unable to resist a good story.

Here are some biographical tidbits about Caligula and you tell me you think it sounds like anybody else you know.

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For starters Caligula lost both of his parents at an early age and was sent to live with relatives on a island where he was surrounded by people who held extremely radical and not of the mainstream view of things to say the least. It was during this time which were his formative years that he developed into the person he later became. All of those radical hedonistic lifestyle ideas he got while living on the island of Capri with his uncle Tiberius… Another prince of a man…lol. After he had Tiberius smothered he returned to Rome to claim his throne. Here he was raised by his people who endowed him with all sorts of characteristics probably didn’t really have. This was a people who have endured last administration and ready for some hope and change which is why you 24 he became the Emperor of one out of every four people in the world. Once he got into office he began consolidating power in every possible thing he did and said. Within two years he had made the Senate almost obsolete because he would ignore them and go around them and legislate unilaterally through executive Fiat whenever the mood hit him. (Sound familiar?)

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Right out of the gate the people loved Caligula… “Today, looking back, we often wonder how anyone could have actually looked forward to the reign of Caligula; but of course, we have the benefit of hindsight. To the general public of the Roman Empire he seemed like a perfectly normal young man. Many saw him in a sympathetic light” one of the reasons the people loved him so much was because upon assuming office he was also quick to put the vast treasury left by Tiberius to good use in winning greater popularity for himself. He gave the Praetorian Guard a hefty bonus, distributed money to the common people and declared a general amnesty to free all of those imprisoned by the paranoia of Tiberius.(This should all be starting to sound somewhat familiar). The other thing he was known for was his ability to throw an incredible decadent party that would last for days and weeks all on the taxpayers dime… There was no luxury you would not afford himself… No food to exotic. (Does this sound like anybody else’s you know who we spend $1 billion a year supporting?)

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He was also well known for engaging in deviant sexual acts with people of the same sex back then there was no place like Chicago’s “Man’s Country” where Barack and his pals would go for their deviant homosexual relief… So Caligula would just throw a party. One of the things he liked to do was to humiliate and degrade the members of the Senate which is equivalent of our Congress. (hmmmm) He would publicly humiliate these people, he would mock them and ridiculed them every way possible he could even to the point where they were required to address his horse as though it were prince. He was suspicious of everybody because along with all of this came the paranoia and delusions of grandeur that are part and parcel to narcissistic personality disorders of this magnitude. He finally declared himself to be a God … Much like we have our own presidential Messiah. He was quick to blame others for his mistakes and never got tired of spending the riches of the kingdom. When the treasury ran dry he started taxing everything including marriage to support his lavish spending habits. He enriched himself by confiscating the property of anyone arrested for treason and when in need of funds he might charge any wealthy Roman with treason. After 1400 days in office he was killed by his own people who now hated his guts and his legacy is one of absolute power corrupting absolutely just like BHO.

He biographical profiles of these two cruel, dishonest evil flamboyant smooth talking dictators are like pages from the same book I don’t think that Obama in the White House right now I think it’s a CaligBAMA OR Barigula… Your thoughts?

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Bush and Cheney may have invented it, but national Democratic Party leaders are full-fledged players in the 21st-century national surveillance state. And the interest-group pressures that now help to sustain its defenders in Washington work just as powerfully on Democrats as on Republicans. That’s according to Thomas Ferguson, Paul Jorgensen, and Jie Chen. They have just posted a short version of their new report on AlterNet and a working paper for the Roosevelt Institute titled Party Competition and Industrial Structures in the 2012 Elections: Who’s Really Driving the Taxi to the Dark Side?

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 We’re now joined by one of the authors, Thomas Ferguson. He’s a professor of political science at the University of Massachusetts Boston, a senior fellow at the Roosevelt Institute, and a contributing editor at AlterNet.

 Thank you so much for joining us.

 TOM FERGUSON, PROF. POLITICAL SCIENCE, UMASS BOSTON: Hi there.

NOOR: So, Professor Ferguson, what you’re arguing here kind of flies in the face of conventional wisdom and the mainstream narrative of the 2012 election. Can you just break down exactly what you’re saying?

 FERGUSON: Okay. Well, we’re saying a lot of things, but I’ll focus on the stuff that connects directly to the national surveillance state. We started out trying simply to do a straightforward money-in-politics analysis of the election. Now, I say that fully conscious of the irony, ’cause there’s nothing straightforward about that.

 We don’t use anybody else’s data. We download it all from the Federal Election Commission and the IRS, which does the so-called 527 contributions, which are big–it’s a lot of money. And then we sort of pore over it and we do a lot of computer techniques that nobody else does. I mean, I’ve talked about that before on this show–don’t particularly feel the need to do it again.

And so we were sitting back and, you know, analyzing it. And our first stages of the study are pretty much the same. You sort of sit there and you try to figure out, okay, let’s take the entire business community, then let’s subdivide it into big business and the rest and look at those two samples, one everything and the other big business. So we do that.

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 And in the business as a whole, the big sample, what we discover is straightforward, which is that Obama’s support there was not very strong. Just counting percentages of firms that contribute, about 24 percent did. The Republican percentage for Romney was, like, 46 percent–much higher.

And when we look at the big business sample, we find, you know, again a disproportion between the Republicans and the Democrats, though this time everything shifted up. That is to say, 76 percent of the big business firms on our sample were contributing to Romney and about 56 for Obama. Now, you know, what that looked like to us was the usual story, which is, yep, the Republicans are the party of big business, though we thought it was really pretty interesting. And this is one place where we start to depart from the usual narrative. Obama had a lot of support in big business, much more than any discussion of the campaign that I know of would suggest.

 But where the story got really interesting for us is when we did our usual move, which was start looking at pieces of the business community, usually sectors first. And there we quickly discover that in certain industries Obama’s support is running way higher than his average. And those industries turn out to be six in particular: telecommunications, electronics, defense, software on the web, computers, and manufacturing for the web.

 In June 2013, when the Snowden revelations hit, you know, from Glen Greenwald and company at The Guardian, and to some extent The Washington Post, we were looking at these results and said, you know, this is really very interesting. These sectors that are showing extremely high percentages of contribution to Obama are precisely the sectors in which a large number of those firms that are mentioned are real active. And at that point, you know, we know we have a really interesting conclusion, which is that a lot of the Obama bastions of support, maybe the biggest of all, is precisely those firms, the ones responsible for the surveillance–I should say, sectors in which those firms predominate. On the other hand, I can also tell you, without trying to go firm-by-firm, a lot of the folks discussed in The Guardian and other publications, Google, Facebook, Apple, for example, they all contain substantial contributions or contributors, ’cause you can have both the firm and executives contribute under our rules these days. They show up for the Democrats in substantial amounts.

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NOOR: And as you point out, many Obama supporters were hoping that President Obama would rein in, you know, what could have been seen as rampant surveillance and, you know, wiretapping under the Bush-Cheney years. So what needs to be done to bring these companies, to bring these industries under heel and under some type of control?

 FERGUSON: We know from Tim Shorrock’s really excellent book on this subject that steadily forward from the Reagan era, the government privatized more and more of intelligence operations. And, you know, the Clinton people were very big in that. But then the sort of big change is after 911. The whole sort of newly privatized operation then swells enormously in size. And so we’re to the point where now, say, like, two-thirds of all the intelligence expenditures, Shorrock estimates, are going to the private sector.

 And, you know, I have to say, looking back on this now, this looks to me like an awful lot of other privatization efforts I’ve seen, where it turns out you get clientele politics. And certainly you get some very powerful interest group pressures. If you look at–I mean, there is a couple of studies–there’s at least one study of the amendment that almost passed in the House of Representatives not long after the initial revelations to rein in the NSA, and there they showed you that there was–the correlation between districts with a lot of defense and what they were calling surveillance industry money, which is probably narrower than what I am, it was very high. And it’s–that’s pretty interesting and it’s pretty scary.

 But, you know, my take is the actual sort of, if you like, industrial interests here are now very deep, very big. And what looked like a problem of ideology, meaning what top policymakers or bureaucrats thought was legally or morally acceptable, is that’s just the tip of the iceberg. You now have a huge interest group problem here.

 And, you know, that, I think, poses the question of controlled completely anew. I mean, it seems pretty obvious to me, looking now again at all of this with somewhat, you know, keener eyes, that it’s obvious that when Obama came in, yes, as you said, we all expected that he would rein in the sort of super extended national surveillance state from the Bush-Cheney era; instead what he did is fix a few of the most grievous errors, but then, you know, we know he was in fact secretly expanding what was going on underneath in surveillance. The government was even offering to pay some of the costs of firms when they had to change their equipment, you know, which of course makes nonsense of their denials they knew nothing about it. And we actually have here, I’d say–it’s pretty scary, right? I mean, you’ve got a government that wants to collect nearly everything about you, working through firms that also like that idea. And, in fact, what they’d like to do is to, you know, sell the information there. This is kind of a closed loop.

 This is–you know, I wouldn’t have said this was the major problem. You know, I was of course, like a lot of other people, naive.

 NOOR: So, Thomas Ferguson, we certainly have a lot more to talk about, but we’re going to end this part of the conversation here. Thank you so much for joining us.

 FERGUSON: Thanks.

 NOOR: Thank you for joining us on The Real News Network.

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